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To start, when I said everything was stupid, it comes from an American who is of the opinion the US should not have been involved in events in Ukraine. When our pathetic US Senator McCain and his pooch Graham were in Kiev in 2014, I think that was, from an American perspective, stupid. Personally I agree with you, I wish the SMO would end and people quit dying for nothing more than a few US Neocon's fantasies.

I guess you could say Nuland, and add Merkle, Hollande and that crowd out maneuvered Putin with Minsk. I have to admit I wasn't, unfortunately, paying close attention at that time; my bad. I guess I, as is true for many other Americans, was quite tired of our country being involved in Syria, Libya, Yemen, Iraq, Serbia and Afghanistan, to name a few, for no national security reason(s). Of course the US's use of "Shock & Awe" tactics are unique to the US. Since Putin didn't use similar tactics he/Russia are deemed weak. With all of that, Ukraine was just another chapter in a big book of stupid events.

Until the SMO started, I and a number of people I know were all conditioned to believe everything our corrupt, lying government told us about Putin. Now that we are learning how often we have been lied to on so many issues, we are not so sure how bad Putin is. So your assumption, my word, that Russia would invade other areas could be true, but if China did in Mexico or Canada what the US did in Ukraine, I would expect our government to respond in similar fashion of Russia's response. The rest, at this point seems to be speculation.

We know our guys are lying scum!

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In other words, the Great Power Competition goes on.

Whole lot of words just to wind up agreeing with me.

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Hahaha, yes and no. I do appreciate the dialogue though. Here's a thought, let's put Biden, Zelensky and Putin on a 1sq km island for a week. It would be interesting to see their situation 7 days later.

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