I told you before. Which you chose to ignore. That America provoked the conflict. First by staging a coup to install scumbag Zelensky, exchanging nuclear weapons in Ukraine for biological ones. And, courting Ukraine into NATO which the US promised they’d never do. How long are you going to pretend those things don’t count? And, BTW, none…
I told you before. Which you chose to ignore. That America provoked the conflict. First by staging a coup to install scumbag Zelensky, exchanging nuclear weapons in Ukraine for biological ones. And, courting Ukraine into NATO which the US promised they’d never do. How long are you going to pretend those things don’t count? And, BTW, none of what I’m saying has anything to do with sympathy for Russia. “Sympathy for Russia” is a dog whistle for don’t criticize the USA. Bullshit.
The provocation argument presumes that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is morally justified. It is not.
Ukraine was not preparing to attack Russia. There was no marshaling of forces on the Ukraine side of the border with Russia. There was no imminent threat against Russian territory.
Consequently, the premise that Putin was justified in invading Ukraine is morally absurd, morally repulsive, and morally rejected. That Russia has legitimate grievances against NATO and the EU does not give them license to invade a sovereign nation, and Ukraine is a sovereign nation. To argue otherwise is to say America's illegal wars in the Middle East are in fact legal and moral. You may favor such a position, but I do not.
Russia invaded Ukraine. This is a morally indefensible act. There is no valid argument to the contrary.
You are the one making justifications I’m merely saying facts. Your conclusions are askew. Putin took forever piling artillery on Ukraine’s border. Did the Biden admin use that time to de-escalate tensions? Nope. Everything points to this administration wanting to wage a proxy war with Russia which any thinking person would see as a very bad idea.
Fact: Russia sent troops across the border into Ukraine--i.e., Russia invaded Ukraine.
Giving Russia a pass on that indisputable fact is a morally bankrupt argument and merits no serious consideration.
Does that excuse NATO and EU actions or lack thereof with respect to Russia and Ukraine? No. And there many condemnations about those actions and inactions to be had.
None of which justifies or excuses Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
I told you before. Which you chose to ignore. That America provoked the conflict. First by staging a coup to install scumbag Zelensky, exchanging nuclear weapons in Ukraine for biological ones. And, courting Ukraine into NATO which the US promised they’d never do. How long are you going to pretend those things don’t count? And, BTW, none of what I’m saying has anything to do with sympathy for Russia. “Sympathy for Russia” is a dog whistle for don’t criticize the USA. Bullshit.
The provocation argument presumes that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is morally justified. It is not.
Ukraine was not preparing to attack Russia. There was no marshaling of forces on the Ukraine side of the border with Russia. There was no imminent threat against Russian territory.
Consequently, the premise that Putin was justified in invading Ukraine is morally absurd, morally repulsive, and morally rejected. That Russia has legitimate grievances against NATO and the EU does not give them license to invade a sovereign nation, and Ukraine is a sovereign nation. To argue otherwise is to say America's illegal wars in the Middle East are in fact legal and moral. You may favor such a position, but I do not.
Russia invaded Ukraine. This is a morally indefensible act. There is no valid argument to the contrary.
You are the one making justifications I’m merely saying facts. Your conclusions are askew. Putin took forever piling artillery on Ukraine’s border. Did the Biden admin use that time to de-escalate tensions? Nope. Everything points to this administration wanting to wage a proxy war with Russia which any thinking person would see as a very bad idea.
Fact: Russia sent troops across the border into Ukraine--i.e., Russia invaded Ukraine.
Giving Russia a pass on that indisputable fact is a morally bankrupt argument and merits no serious consideration.
Does that excuse NATO and EU actions or lack thereof with respect to Russia and Ukraine? No. And there many condemnations about those actions and inactions to be had.
None of which justifies or excuses Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
There you go again. It’s like your’re delusional. Who’s giving Russia a pass? You keep trying to justify war by making false equivalencies. Just stop.
Projection is not an argument. But whatever. You want to pretend yours is the morally sound position, you are at liberty to indulge in that error.