Twenty-four cases of meningitis (meningococcal disease) and seven deaths among gay and bisexual men are under investigation by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Florida Department of Public Health. Officials said it was among the worst outbreaks ever among this group.
As per usual, the CDC is advising folk to get vaccinated against meningococcal disease.
Is this, like the hepatitis cases among children, a potential unforeseen consequence of the Pandemic Panic?
Or are we just that sensitized to outbreaks of rare diseases in the post-COVID era?
They are warning particularly gay and bisexual men who are going to Florida to attend various pride events. They declare vaccination to be the best defense against this disease.
Presumably there are also gay and bisexual women attending these events. They don’t seem to be concerned. Is this a disease that apparently does not affect women?
Is vaccination necessarily the best defense here? Perhaps as Dr Alexander rather bluntly suggests, the best mitigation is avoiding partaking in some practice that may differentiate gay/bisexual men vs women?
So not only is medicine required to be blindered by financial interests, it is also prevented from suggesting answers counter to political interests…
On the surface, it would appear that, for whatever reason, lesbian and bisexual women are not getting infected--certainly not at the rates being attributed to gay and bisexual men.
Why this might be is an interesting question epidemiologically speaking--and in today's trigglypuffed world just asking that question is proof of stigmatizing gays, lesbians, and bisexuals.
But there is no doubt that a little self-restraint (of the moral variety, not the leather one) would go a long way towards mitigating these disease outbreaks.
Before we start stigmatizing anyone, keep in mind the male gay 'community' is among the most vulnerable to a 'manipulated' outbreak and they may be, historically, much more the 'victims' than is properly presented.
Absolutely, but there may also be genuine (small “s”) scientific questions here too — first in my mind would be, could the covid shot uptake have been higher in this population?
Should also say the question is also primarily motivated out of the immediate suspicion of state entities recommending “vaccination”, if not suspicion of a state medical recommendation period. So yes manipulated outbreak… where does this recommendation serve the interests of a corrupted state/medical system?
Ah — IS monkeypox and now meningitis actually primarily circulated among the male gay/bisexual population, or is that the cover story? And exceptions to that narrative covered by “Gosh ma’am, I don’t know how you could have gotten it. It sounds like you and your husband should have long talk. And by the way, then let him know we’re running a covid/meningitis shot two-fer special week!”
What is considered an outbreak? Have rare diseases and viruses always happened over the years but since Covid everyone is online consuming information with preconditioned (sensitized) paranoia to germs etc.? Over the past 5-20 years I remember news stories of college campuses having bouts of meningitis, but it wasn't a panic or hysteria. I (we) need to unplug and live life come what may, like our grandparents did.
It's disturbing how Vaccines have become the answer to every virus and illness and the proportional rise in autoimmune/allergy, mental health and other disorders and diseases are more prevalent than ever, everyone has an Rx. Covid taught us that D3 strengthens immunity and protects against many viruses, illnesses etc. It's criminal that the healthcare biz wants us sick rather than eating and living naturally and healthy.
A lot of the connotation of outbreak has to do with how common a disease actually is.
In this case, the "experts" are saying this cluster of ~24 cases is one of the largest such groupings of meningitis in quite a while. That would make it noteworthy regardless of the actual number of cases.
But that is not to say that panic and hysteria are ever warranted. It's one thing to say "there's this disease going around, so be careful" and quite another to say "OMG we're all going to die if you don't get vaccinated against this disease pronto!". We seem to be in an era where much of the "expert" commentary is of the latter variety.
The ultimate takeaway from the COVID "pandemic" era is that good nutrition, good self care, and good hygiene are still the best ways to mitigate and contain infectious disease. Vaccines can be beneficial, but they are no substitute for healthy lifestyles.
Isn't the vaccine for meningococcal meningitis sterilizing? I haven't looked into it well enough, but if anything all of this noise of epidemics should alert us to taking better care of our own health. It's likely to be more important now than ever before. Well, at least in my young adult life.
My understanding of it is that it is supposed to be.
What is difficult to determine at this point is that, having spent two years on COVID pandemic panic, and with monkeypox pandemic panic getting ramped up, is this outbreak of meningitis in a particular (and politically sensitive) patient demographic just one of those random things or is there a signal of something else at play?
But you are right about the importance of people taking charge of their own health. Without any vaccine or inoculation at all, most severe illnesses can be prevented by following healthy living habits, including good nutrition and rest. Self care is always the most important care of all.
So.
They are warning particularly gay and bisexual men who are going to Florida to attend various pride events. They declare vaccination to be the best defense against this disease.
Presumably there are also gay and bisexual women attending these events. They don’t seem to be concerned. Is this a disease that apparently does not affect women?
Is vaccination necessarily the best defense here? Perhaps as Dr Alexander rather bluntly suggests, the best mitigation is avoiding partaking in some practice that may differentiate gay/bisexual men vs women?
So not only is medicine required to be blindered by financial interests, it is also prevented from suggesting answers counter to political interests…
On the surface, it would appear that, for whatever reason, lesbian and bisexual women are not getting infected--certainly not at the rates being attributed to gay and bisexual men.
Why this might be is an interesting question epidemiologically speaking--and in today's trigglypuffed world just asking that question is proof of stigmatizing gays, lesbians, and bisexuals.
But there is no doubt that a little self-restraint (of the moral variety, not the leather one) would go a long way towards mitigating these disease outbreaks.
Before we start stigmatizing anyone, keep in mind the male gay 'community' is among the most vulnerable to a 'manipulated' outbreak and they may be, historically, much more the 'victims' than is properly presented.
Absolutely, but there may also be genuine (small “s”) scientific questions here too — first in my mind would be, could the covid shot uptake have been higher in this population?
Should also say the question is also primarily motivated out of the immediate suspicion of state entities recommending “vaccination”, if not suspicion of a state medical recommendation period. So yes manipulated outbreak… where does this recommendation serve the interests of a corrupted state/medical system?
Ah — IS monkeypox and now meningitis actually primarily circulated among the male gay/bisexual population, or is that the cover story? And exceptions to that narrative covered by “Gosh ma’am, I don’t know how you could have gotten it. It sounds like you and your husband should have long talk. And by the way, then let him know we’re running a covid/meningitis shot two-fer special week!”
What is considered an outbreak? Have rare diseases and viruses always happened over the years but since Covid everyone is online consuming information with preconditioned (sensitized) paranoia to germs etc.? Over the past 5-20 years I remember news stories of college campuses having bouts of meningitis, but it wasn't a panic or hysteria. I (we) need to unplug and live life come what may, like our grandparents did.
It's disturbing how Vaccines have become the answer to every virus and illness and the proportional rise in autoimmune/allergy, mental health and other disorders and diseases are more prevalent than ever, everyone has an Rx. Covid taught us that D3 strengthens immunity and protects against many viruses, illnesses etc. It's criminal that the healthcare biz wants us sick rather than eating and living naturally and healthy.
A lot of the connotation of outbreak has to do with how common a disease actually is.
In this case, the "experts" are saying this cluster of ~24 cases is one of the largest such groupings of meningitis in quite a while. That would make it noteworthy regardless of the actual number of cases.
But that is not to say that panic and hysteria are ever warranted. It's one thing to say "there's this disease going around, so be careful" and quite another to say "OMG we're all going to die if you don't get vaccinated against this disease pronto!". We seem to be in an era where much of the "expert" commentary is of the latter variety.
The ultimate takeaway from the COVID "pandemic" era is that good nutrition, good self care, and good hygiene are still the best ways to mitigate and contain infectious disease. Vaccines can be beneficial, but they are no substitute for healthy lifestyles.
And polio as well apparently
And polio.
And here I thought Pestilence was just a single Horseman, not a whole damn cavalry brigade!
The additional Horseman.
https://i.imgur.com/g2OoVEV.jpg
Can it be both?
Isn't the vaccine for meningococcal meningitis sterilizing? I haven't looked into it well enough, but if anything all of this noise of epidemics should alert us to taking better care of our own health. It's likely to be more important now than ever before. Well, at least in my young adult life.
My understanding of it is that it is supposed to be.
What is difficult to determine at this point is that, having spent two years on COVID pandemic panic, and with monkeypox pandemic panic getting ramped up, is this outbreak of meningitis in a particular (and politically sensitive) patient demographic just one of those random things or is there a signal of something else at play?
But you are right about the importance of people taking charge of their own health. Without any vaccine or inoculation at all, most severe illnesses can be prevented by following healthy living habits, including good nutrition and rest. Self care is always the most important care of all.