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They're manipulating oil prices because Saudi Arabia needs higher oil prices and so does Russia.

Before the production cuts Saudi Arabia was losing money on each barrel of oil sold. Now the price per barrel is better for them but the volume of oil sold is too low

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Russia needs higher oil prices in large part to offset the sanctions that were deliberately initiated to cripple their economy.

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Well, they DID invade Ukraine. No invasion no sanctions. No invasion no war to have to finance.

There's plenty of reasons to criticize the sanctions but sympathy for Russia does not number among them. They could end the sanctions tomorrow by pulling their forces back to Russia proper.

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I told you before. Which you chose to ignore. That America provoked the conflict. First by staging a coup to install scumbag Zelensky, exchanging nuclear weapons in Ukraine for biological ones. And, courting Ukraine into NATO which the US promised theyтАЩd never do. How long are you going to pretend those things donтАЩt count? And, BTW, none of what IтАЩm saying has anything to do with sympathy for Russia. тАЬSympathy for RussiaтАЭ is a dog whistle for donтАЩt criticize the USA. Bullshit.

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The provocation argument presumes that RussiaтАЩs invasion of Ukraine is morally justified. It is not.

Ukraine was not preparing to attack Russia. There was no marshaling of forces on the Ukraine side of the border with Russia. There was no imminent threat against Russian territory.

Consequently, the premise that Putin was justified in invading Ukraine is morally absurd, morally repulsive, and morally rejected. That Russia has legitimate grievances against NATO and the EU does not give them license to invade a sovereign nation, and Ukraine is a sovereign nation. To argue otherwise is to say America's illegal wars in the Middle East are in fact legal and moral. You may favor such a position, but I do not.

Russia invaded Ukraine. This is a morally indefensible act. There is no valid argument to the contrary.

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You are the one making justifications IтАЩm merely saying facts. Your conclusions are askew. Putin took forever piling artillery on UkraineтАЩs border. Did the Biden admin use that time to de-escalate tensions? Nope. Everything points to this administration wanting to wage a proxy war with Russia which any thinking person would see as a very bad idea.

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Fact: Russia sent troops across the border into Ukraine--i.e., Russia invaded Ukraine.

Giving Russia a pass on that indisputable fact is a morally bankrupt argument and merits no serious consideration.

Does that excuse NATO and EU actions or lack thereof with respect to Russia and Ukraine? No. And there many condemnations about those actions and inactions to be had.

None of which justifies or excuses RussiaтАЩs invasion of Ukraine.

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There you go again. ItтАЩs like yourтАЩre delusional. WhoтАЩs giving Russia a pass? You keep trying to justify war by making false equivalencies. Just stop.

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Projection is not an argument. But whatever. You want to pretend yours is the morally sound position, you are at liberty to indulge in that error.

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