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What offended me was the casual way they spoke of the need to "degrade Russia".

What they mean--what they and the moderators confirmed to be NATO's overall strategy in Ukraine--is that they believe US interests are served by perpetuating a war of attrition between Russia and Ukraine. "Degrade Russia" means exactly what I have been saying it was all along: attrit Russian military formations, grind up their army and their logistics, and use Ukrainians as the cannon fodder with which to do it.

From a military and geopolitical perspective the strategy has a certain Machiavellian logic to it. If one believes Great Power Competition is overall a good thing for the US it can even be a defensible strategy within that framework. It still means sacrificing hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers and Lord only knows how many civilian casualties, all in the name of "degrading Russia."

From the perspective of morality, humanity, and just basic decency the strategy is nothing short of appalling.

I agreed with Ron DeSantis when he said this war needs to end. He's the only one who said it and he didn't follow up with what that entails.

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Agree with your assessment. My fellow countrymen seem to relish bathing in propaganda radiated by complicit mainstream media instead of simply utilizing the amazingly bountiful knowledge finder at their fingertips.

I’ve lived a relatively long life and have often been shocked and saddened over abominable unjust and ungodly foreign policy decisions made by my government. The ongoing Ukraine conflagration IMO takes the cake.

It sure seems likely that WW3 is in the cards.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/09/david-stockman/why-mitch-mcconnell-is-one-sick-fk/

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