No I don't think this particular Pfizer brouhaha is going anywhere. It presupposes viruses are pathogenic and Covid is real. Such presuppositions play into the hands of the medical mafia.
Let's stop believing in this modern day idolatry: germ theory as well as the dark bogus theory of contagion.
No I don't think this particular Pfizer brouhaha is going anywhere. It presupposes viruses are pathogenic and Covid is real. Such presuppositions play into the hands of the medical mafia.
Let's stop believing in this modern day idolatry: germ theory as well as the dark bogus theory of contagion.
Sam and Mark Bailey have done a great deal of research on germ theory. Their proposal to settle the virus debate through a detailed study seems reasonable. But the powers that be who propagate it will never allow such a thing. No dissent from the mainstream view is permitted. That should be a clue to you that something is rotten in Denmark. https://drsambailey.com/resources/settling-the-virus-debate/
What's rotten are his facts. Viruses HAVE been isolated, regardless of what he says. The scientific literature is replete with examples of this. Unless he proposes to say the whole of the scientific establishment is lying, he needs to have some extraordinary facts on his side, which he thus far has not presented to anyone.
If he wants a debate, that's great. But it needs to be grounded in reality. He too has some research to do before he can hold his own in such a debate.
These anti-germ/anti-virus advocates arise now and again (e.g., the delusional quack Stephanie Brail wrote about in her Wholistic Substack who argued COVID was caused by snake venom), but they always come up short in the reality quotient.
This isn't about not tolerating dissent. This is about not having patience for delusional fact-free nonsense. There is plenty about modern allopathic medicine to criticize, but the development of germ theory, and its expansion to encompass viruses, viroids, and prions as well as bacteria as potential pathogens, is not one of them.
What makes Sam Bailey's rantings nonsense is the signature logical flaw that he requires germ theory be false BEFORE his theories can be advanced. That's not how it works. His theories need to PROVE the falsity, not assert it as a predicate condition. That explodes his entire system completely and irretrievably, and renders it unworthy of further consideration.
Did they say the scientific establishment is lying? I don't think so and I don't believe they are "lying" either. I would say they are wedded to an orthodox position. It is irrelevant whether they begin believing whether germ theory is true or false. They are saying let's test the theory. They are willing to play ball. But it can never be accomplished because of arrogant people like yourself who is completely convinced he cannot be wrong.
They would have done better to say the scientific establishment is lying. At least then they would have a thesis that could be debated (they would still lose, but there would at least be 30 seconds of actual debate before they got annihilated by the facts).
However, Sam Bailey specifically says this:
"Perhaps the primary evidence that the pathogenic viral theory is problematic is that no published scientific paper has ever shown that particles fulfilling the definition of viruses have been directly isolated and purified from any tissues or bodily fluids of any sick human or animal."
This is a false statement, and there are innumerable papers in the public domain which establish the falsity of this statement. Either Sam Bailey is ignorant of these papers or he is lying. Malice or stupidity, those are the available choices. There is not a third one available.
You can believe that Sam Bailey is not lying, but that will not alter one bit the reality that he IS lying, and that his theories explode immediately from his lies.
We get enough lies from the FDA and the CDC. I'm not enthusiastic about anyone else who wants to add to that burden.
>>This is a false statement, and there are innumerable papers in the public domain which establish the falsity of this statement.<<
This is simply an appeal to authority. The consensus view does not confer legitimacy as you would like everyone to believe. This is how allopathic medicine has established a dictatorship throughout the world. The appeal to the "experts." Once you start believing in the "expets," then you are beholden to them. They call the shots and no dissent is permitted. They are the only ones who have the "cure" and you must follow them. Why? Because only they know what is true and what is false. The appeal to expert authority is why we're in trouble now. The hubris (which you suffer from) stifles scientific debate. I'll say it again: you are disingenuous with your claim that you welcome all challenges to the germ theory. I am even tempted to call you a liar.
If they do exist, what is their function in the body? The "vast amount of research" you refer to are simply the speculative theories of mainstream virologists. Appealing to their authority does not make it fact.
I invite everyone reading this to see what Jon Rappoport had to say on this subject during the very early days of the so-called pandemic.
Damn! Will the Zombie Virus Apocalypse never come?
I write this piece for those who ordinarily have their heads on straight, when it comes to understanding the basics of HEALTH---but now, because of the “coronavirus epidemic,” are drifting back into the medical model: FIXATION ON GERMS.
A correct reading of suppressed medical history reveals that the hypothesis of “one disease, one germ” is a modern con, moving down a blind alley at midnight. And when you add “one vaccine” to the formula, you get an even greater degree of lunacy.
But you also get a trillion-dollar commercial success.
I don’t care how many contemporary molecular biologists are working in labs, amplifying invisible slivers of who knows what molecules into view, and calling them viruses; it’s a con. This also applies to biowar biologists trying to create super-germs. They’re all working in the dark vis-à-vis the natural processes of the body, which are far more complex and far more protective of health than these scientists know---unless the body is interfered with by direct poisons or gross mechanical destruction.
The history of human health shows that upgrades in public sanitation, hygiene, and improved nutrition have done more for people than all the “germ-fighting” pharmaceutical interventions ever invented laid end to end.
But THAT is not a trillion-dollar commercial success.
Even when tissue samples are taken from the body, properly separated through centrifuge, and then observed under an electron microscope, by the most competent and honest researchers, you still get dead pictures of dead particles. As researcher Karma Singh has pointed out, you don’t know, from those pictures, what such particles do or don’t do when they’re alive and integrated in the body. You can’t infer that they cause disease. The whole operation of the Virus Hunters is one brassy late-night infomercial tap dancing in the long, long history of humans on this planet.
You want germs? No one knows how many there are. From various estimates, we could be talking about thousands of trillions to the thousandth power. Maybe more. If an infinitesimal fraction of the critters caused serious disease, we’d not only all be dead, we’d be dead on dead on dead.
To begin to understand how overblown all these modern epidemic duds are, let’s go to the animals. Farm animals. Pigs. A headline blares: A MILLION PIGS SLAUGHTERED. African Swine Fever Virus was discovered, and in order to stop the contagion, death was rained down on the pigs. On the farm. On the giant factory farm. So a question arises:
Do you seriously think humans sat down next to each of the million pigs and tested him/her for the Virus? Drew a blood or tissue sample?
Twenty pigs tested positive and they killed the rest as matter of course. They always do.
But wait. What are the conditions on this massive million-pig factory farm? Let’s see. Pigs living in their own urine and feces, crowded next to one another, nose to butt, sprayed with toxic chemicals, eating chemical-laced feed---under high stress, never living the kind of existence they were designed for. Think they’re going to get sick? Think some kind of minimally reliable test might find a virus or two living and replicating in their bodies? Do you seriously think those viruses matter, contrasted against the OBVIOUS immunosuppressive ENVIRONMENT?
As the number one germ hunter of all time, Louis Pasteur, was reported to have confessed on his deathbed: it’s not the germ, it’s the terrain---meaning, it’s the body and its strength and vitality and resiliency---THAT should be the real focus of the healing profession. Building up health.
One problem. There’s no money in it.
Oops.
A final note for now: When I’m told that published studies reveal the coronavirus is actually an engineered bioweapon, from a lab, I repeat the assertion I’ve been making in this ongoing series of articles:
The researchers are using indirect methods of virus detection (PCR, antibody tests), and as a result, they have no idea what they’re discovering. It could be fragments of random DNA or RNA, cellular debris, germs that live quite comfortably in the body and never cause harm---and THEN, when the researchers assemble the genetic sequences of these unknown tiny objects and publish them; SO WHAT? And when other people come along and read these sequences and claim there are peculiarities which suggest bio-engineering has taken place, the whole mess of gibberish escalates to a higher level of absurdity. Yes, it has always been the case that biowar scientists in labs are maniacs fiddling and diddling with mixtures of chemicals and germs; and yes, they should all be stopped; but to say that NOW, these loons have precisely located the new coronavirus and are precisely altering it to produce an unstoppable force---that’s really quite a fantastical leap, and it’s a leap that leads into believing, all over again, that “one germ, one disease” is the pattern of the human body. The body deserves more credit than that.
They exist. They hijack cellular replicating mechanisms to reproduce, and, by invading particular cells, trigger immune system responses which produce the symptoms we associate with infectious respiratory diseases (the fever, et cetera, is not the result of the virus but of the inflammation response that goes along with the immune system working to clear the body of the virus).
And no, this is NOT speculation. Saying that all virology is speculation is, simply put, A LIE.
Facts matter. Research matters. Lies only matter when people are deluded into believing them--and examination of the facts always reveals lies as lies, and obligates the rational man to discard the lies.
Consider Sam Bailey and Jon Rappoport discarded as the liars they are. Permanently.
The Baileys offer to conduct a study to settle the debate. They are not like you who insist that the matter is settled. By dismissing them as "liars," you join the ranks of all the other authoritarians who insist "my way or the highway." If the dark theory of contagion is true, then allow critics to challenge it. If you are THEN correct, so be it. But to cavalierly dismiss all those who you disagree with you as "liars," reveals you to be a person of low character.
Not only do viruses exist, but the presentation of germ theory as the sudden inspiration of Louis Pasteur in the mid-19th century is itself factually false.
Even Galen, who generally favored the miasma theory, articulated concepts of infected individuals containing the "seeds" of their infection.
Which is why people such as Ignaz Semmelweis and John Snow are important names to know when contemplating the history of germ theory. Their respective accomplishments against puerpal fever and cholera are wholly supportive of a germ theory mode of infection and disease.
No I don't think this particular Pfizer brouhaha is going anywhere. It presupposes viruses are pathogenic and Covid is real. Such presuppositions play into the hands of the medical mafia.
Let's stop believing in this modern day idolatry: germ theory as well as the dark bogus theory of contagion.
This Substack should be mandatory reading for everyone in the medical freedom movement: https://secularheretic.substack.com/p/the-tower-of-babel-must-be-destroyed
Arguing against the existence of viruses is about as productive as ice skating up hill.
I am not suggesting we take this tack with the brainwashed pod people.
This is strictly for the more enlightened.
Again if this Substack is like ice skating up hill, the pharmaceutical companies are our saviors!
https://secularheretic.substack.com/p/the-tower-of-babel-must-be-destroyed
And where does Ignaz Semmelweis fit in this "enlightened" theory of disease and infection?
Or, for that matter, John Snow?
Who are you referring to?
You have some research to do if you're going to be throwing shade on germ theory.
Sam and Mark Bailey have done a great deal of research on germ theory. Their proposal to settle the virus debate through a detailed study seems reasonable. But the powers that be who propagate it will never allow such a thing. No dissent from the mainstream view is permitted. That should be a clue to you that something is rotten in Denmark. https://drsambailey.com/resources/settling-the-virus-debate/
What's rotten are his facts. Viruses HAVE been isolated, regardless of what he says. The scientific literature is replete with examples of this. Unless he proposes to say the whole of the scientific establishment is lying, he needs to have some extraordinary facts on his side, which he thus far has not presented to anyone.
If he wants a debate, that's great. But it needs to be grounded in reality. He too has some research to do before he can hold his own in such a debate.
These anti-germ/anti-virus advocates arise now and again (e.g., the delusional quack Stephanie Brail wrote about in her Wholistic Substack who argued COVID was caused by snake venom), but they always come up short in the reality quotient.
This isn't about not tolerating dissent. This is about not having patience for delusional fact-free nonsense. There is plenty about modern allopathic medicine to criticize, but the development of germ theory, and its expansion to encompass viruses, viroids, and prions as well as bacteria as potential pathogens, is not one of them.
What makes Sam Bailey's rantings nonsense is the signature logical flaw that he requires germ theory be false BEFORE his theories can be advanced. That's not how it works. His theories need to PROVE the falsity, not assert it as a predicate condition. That explodes his entire system completely and irretrievably, and renders it unworthy of further consideration.
Did they say the scientific establishment is lying? I don't think so and I don't believe they are "lying" either. I would say they are wedded to an orthodox position. It is irrelevant whether they begin believing whether germ theory is true or false. They are saying let's test the theory. They are willing to play ball. But it can never be accomplished because of arrogant people like yourself who is completely convinced he cannot be wrong.
They would have done better to say the scientific establishment is lying. At least then they would have a thesis that could be debated (they would still lose, but there would at least be 30 seconds of actual debate before they got annihilated by the facts).
However, Sam Bailey specifically says this:
"Perhaps the primary evidence that the pathogenic viral theory is problematic is that no published scientific paper has ever shown that particles fulfilling the definition of viruses have been directly isolated and purified from any tissues or bodily fluids of any sick human or animal."
This is a false statement, and there are innumerable papers in the public domain which establish the falsity of this statement. Either Sam Bailey is ignorant of these papers or he is lying. Malice or stupidity, those are the available choices. There is not a third one available.
You can believe that Sam Bailey is not lying, but that will not alter one bit the reality that he IS lying, and that his theories explode immediately from his lies.
We get enough lies from the FDA and the CDC. I'm not enthusiastic about anyone else who wants to add to that burden.
>>This is a false statement, and there are innumerable papers in the public domain which establish the falsity of this statement.<<
This is simply an appeal to authority. The consensus view does not confer legitimacy as you would like everyone to believe. This is how allopathic medicine has established a dictatorship throughout the world. The appeal to the "experts." Once you start believing in the "expets," then you are beholden to them. They call the shots and no dissent is permitted. They are the only ones who have the "cure" and you must follow them. Why? Because only they know what is true and what is false. The appeal to expert authority is why we're in trouble now. The hubris (which you suffer from) stifles scientific debate. I'll say it again: you are disingenuous with your claim that you welcome all challenges to the germ theory. I am even tempted to call you a liar.
Of course viruses exist. There is a vast amount of research on their innards, behaviour and disease impact.
If they do exist, what is their function in the body? The "vast amount of research" you refer to are simply the speculative theories of mainstream virologists. Appealing to their authority does not make it fact.
I invite everyone reading this to see what Jon Rappoport had to say on this subject during the very early days of the so-called pandemic.
Damn! Will the Zombie Virus Apocalypse never come?
by Jon Rappoport
Continuing my "greatest COVID hits" articles. To read my introduction to this ongoing series, go here:. https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2022/10/03/introduction-to-my-greatest-covid-hits-series-of-articles/ To support my work and get value for value, order my Matrix collections here: https://marketplace.mybigcommerce.com/ and subscribe to my substack here: https://jonrappoport.substack.com/
March 2, 2020
I write this piece for those who ordinarily have their heads on straight, when it comes to understanding the basics of HEALTH---but now, because of the “coronavirus epidemic,” are drifting back into the medical model: FIXATION ON GERMS.
A correct reading of suppressed medical history reveals that the hypothesis of “one disease, one germ” is a modern con, moving down a blind alley at midnight. And when you add “one vaccine” to the formula, you get an even greater degree of lunacy.
But you also get a trillion-dollar commercial success.
I don’t care how many contemporary molecular biologists are working in labs, amplifying invisible slivers of who knows what molecules into view, and calling them viruses; it’s a con. This also applies to biowar biologists trying to create super-germs. They’re all working in the dark vis-à-vis the natural processes of the body, which are far more complex and far more protective of health than these scientists know---unless the body is interfered with by direct poisons or gross mechanical destruction.
The history of human health shows that upgrades in public sanitation, hygiene, and improved nutrition have done more for people than all the “germ-fighting” pharmaceutical interventions ever invented laid end to end.
But THAT is not a trillion-dollar commercial success.
Even when tissue samples are taken from the body, properly separated through centrifuge, and then observed under an electron microscope, by the most competent and honest researchers, you still get dead pictures of dead particles. As researcher Karma Singh has pointed out, you don’t know, from those pictures, what such particles do or don’t do when they’re alive and integrated in the body. You can’t infer that they cause disease. The whole operation of the Virus Hunters is one brassy late-night infomercial tap dancing in the long, long history of humans on this planet.
You want germs? No one knows how many there are. From various estimates, we could be talking about thousands of trillions to the thousandth power. Maybe more. If an infinitesimal fraction of the critters caused serious disease, we’d not only all be dead, we’d be dead on dead on dead.
To begin to understand how overblown all these modern epidemic duds are, let’s go to the animals. Farm animals. Pigs. A headline blares: A MILLION PIGS SLAUGHTERED. African Swine Fever Virus was discovered, and in order to stop the contagion, death was rained down on the pigs. On the farm. On the giant factory farm. So a question arises:
Do you seriously think humans sat down next to each of the million pigs and tested him/her for the Virus? Drew a blood or tissue sample?
Twenty pigs tested positive and they killed the rest as matter of course. They always do.
But wait. What are the conditions on this massive million-pig factory farm? Let’s see. Pigs living in their own urine and feces, crowded next to one another, nose to butt, sprayed with toxic chemicals, eating chemical-laced feed---under high stress, never living the kind of existence they were designed for. Think they’re going to get sick? Think some kind of minimally reliable test might find a virus or two living and replicating in their bodies? Do you seriously think those viruses matter, contrasted against the OBVIOUS immunosuppressive ENVIRONMENT?
As the number one germ hunter of all time, Louis Pasteur, was reported to have confessed on his deathbed: it’s not the germ, it’s the terrain---meaning, it’s the body and its strength and vitality and resiliency---THAT should be the real focus of the healing profession. Building up health.
One problem. There’s no money in it.
Oops.
A final note for now: When I’m told that published studies reveal the coronavirus is actually an engineered bioweapon, from a lab, I repeat the assertion I’ve been making in this ongoing series of articles:
The researchers are using indirect methods of virus detection (PCR, antibody tests), and as a result, they have no idea what they’re discovering. It could be fragments of random DNA or RNA, cellular debris, germs that live quite comfortably in the body and never cause harm---and THEN, when the researchers assemble the genetic sequences of these unknown tiny objects and publish them; SO WHAT? And when other people come along and read these sequences and claim there are peculiarities which suggest bio-engineering has taken place, the whole mess of gibberish escalates to a higher level of absurdity. Yes, it has always been the case that biowar scientists in labs are maniacs fiddling and diddling with mixtures of chemicals and germs; and yes, they should all be stopped; but to say that NOW, these loons have precisely located the new coronavirus and are precisely altering it to produce an unstoppable force---that’s really quite a fantastical leap, and it’s a leap that leads into believing, all over again, that “one germ, one disease” is the pattern of the human body. The body deserves more credit than that.
They exist. They hijack cellular replicating mechanisms to reproduce, and, by invading particular cells, trigger immune system responses which produce the symptoms we associate with infectious respiratory diseases (the fever, et cetera, is not the result of the virus but of the inflammation response that goes along with the immune system working to clear the body of the virus).
And no, this is NOT speculation. Saying that all virology is speculation is, simply put, A LIE.
Facts matter. Research matters. Lies only matter when people are deluded into believing them--and examination of the facts always reveals lies as lies, and obligates the rational man to discard the lies.
Consider Sam Bailey and Jon Rappoport discarded as the liars they are. Permanently.
Here ends the discussion.
The Baileys offer to conduct a study to settle the debate. They are not like you who insist that the matter is settled. By dismissing them as "liars," you join the ranks of all the other authoritarians who insist "my way or the highway." If the dark theory of contagion is true, then allow critics to challenge it. If you are THEN correct, so be it. But to cavalierly dismiss all those who you disagree with you as "liars," reveals you to be a person of low character.
Not only do viruses exist, but the presentation of germ theory as the sudden inspiration of Louis Pasteur in the mid-19th century is itself factually false.
Even Galen, who generally favored the miasma theory, articulated concepts of infected individuals containing the "seeds" of their infection.
Which is why people such as Ignaz Semmelweis and John Snow are important names to know when contemplating the history of germ theory. Their respective accomplishments against puerpal fever and cholera are wholly supportive of a germ theory mode of infection and disease.