Jul 4, 2023·edited Jul 4, 2023Liked by Peter Nayland Kust
If you want to see what it looks like when corporations are allowed to vote, look at what goes on in homeowner associations where a large percentage of the housing units are owned by non-resident investment owners.
I don't think this happens with single-family home H.O.A.s -- yet -- but it does happen quite a bit in condominium associations where investment groups hold a super-majority of the votes and act against the interests of the actual resident owners.
For example, it's not uncommon for an investment firm that owns enough units to vote to dissolve the condo association, divesting the resident owners of their homes (but not their obligations to pay their mortgages).
To his credit, Florida Governor Jeb Bush vetoed a bill in 2006 that would have made it easier for this to happen. But Republicans will republican. When Charlie Crist became governor the bill was passed again and signed into law in 2007. The consequences were predictable.
> "Condo owners say a 7-year-old change in state law now is forcing them from their homes as investors convert their buildings into rentals. Some condo owners say they’re being pressured to sell as investment groups slowly take over whole complexes, often by snapping up foreclosed units. Their goal is to sell the properties at a profit." (Naples Daily News, September 08 2014).
> "About 20 owners in Boynton Beach’s Via Lugano condominium filed a lawsuit in June to block a Newton, Mass.-based company from using a state law to force them to sell their homes. According to Florida condo law, a condominium can be dissolved if 80 percent of owners agree to its termination. At Via Lugano, the company Northland Lugano owns an estimated 93 percent of the units." (Palm Beach Post, August 28 2014).
It is also extremely hard to organize owners to take collective action when unit owners are corporations, and you can't even figure out who the actual people responsible are. I know, because I've done it out of necessity. But that's another story.
This is more disclosure......time to dig deeper, Peter.
How crazy to propose allowing corporations to vote, like humans, right? Except.....that's what already is happening.
Human voters are, by default political status of 14th amendment "citizen" under STATUTE (thanks to birth certificate recording) actually corporate entities themselves, and they don't even know it. As they continue to "volunteer" and ask for permission from the corporate overlords to participate in the voting process.....they assert their agreement with this, and remain subject to all the terms and conditions imposed by the corporate government service agencies we know of as "the" state...."the" fed, basically..."the government". Except that "the government" is actually a vast web of corporate subsidiaries that are by contract (the Constitutions) supposed to be providing just 19 specific, enumerated services to the People, who are the ACTUAL government de facto. Look them up; you will find that they are all incorporated and have separate Dun & Bradstreet numbers. Every bureau, every agency, every muicipality, every department at every level of local, state and federal "governments" are separate, incorporated entities, governed by commercial codes and statutes. Contracts.
- As shitty and inverted as the public school system has been for decades, a lot of us do remember learning way back when that a government can not be incorporated, nor can it be run like a business.......and yet what we see everywhere is EXACTLY THAT. What a glaringly obvious contradiction that nobody ever questions or clarifies....how did that happen? It's right out there in plain sight, happening before our eyes. Teachers don't elaborate on this contradiction because they have no idea what it means....they just gloss over it and move on to teach the corporate government structure, which includes the three branches - executive, judicial and legislative. They have no idea that the true three branches of American government are the Union, the Federation and the Confederation. They have no idea that the true American government IS and MUST BE UN-incorporated.
Every piece of the political system on display is corporate, and falls under contract law -- its framework is "legal" (not Lawful- huge difference). By contract law, corporations may only deal with other corporations; the Law of Kinds. Living men and women cannot be party to contracts with corporations.....living people must first give up their organic identities and agree to corporate identities; and THAT identity is what participates in all the "legal" processes of the de facto government service agencies.
And so....this latest proposed bit of insanity is not insane at all; it is just bringing out into the open exactly what has already been going on for a very long time. The true American government is not and never was a "democracy". It is a Republican form of government; by the People (unincorporated). The only "democracy" that exists on American soil exists inside the halls of the congresses.....and whenever human beings parrot that bullshite line about "our democracy", they don't even realize they are affirming their own corporate status as citizen-slaves to the corporate governments, subject to all of the gazillion rules, regulations, statutes, codes, decrees, orders, et al. Not free, certainly. Taxpayers, responsible to finance the activities of the corporate "government". Slaves living in fear of polic(y) enforcement; fear of the IRS, fear of the police (who exist to protect the corporate governments themselves, NOT "the people"), fear of social services, fear of public health, fear of the truant officer, fear of the courts....fear fear fear, the complete and total antithesis of freedom.
Do some deep research into what's really going on, that's been hidden in plain sight for over 160 years. A great place to start is Mel Stamper's book Fruit From a Poisonous Tree....or Douglas Gabriel, Anna VonReitz, David Straight, KL (to name just a few) who all have countless videos.
Unless you've corrected your default political status and proclaimed your original birthright political status as living men and women; Article 4, Section 2A Citizens under Public Law.....your identities are already "legal persons", all those of you who are "registered voters" participating in these elections. In essence, you are all corporations. Why not acknowledge this, and bring the bigger corporate players out of the shadows?
Reading this, at first I thought, ‘well this idea is nuts’. And what a bad legal precedent it would create - ten years from now, would they decide that an AI Chatbox is an ‘entity’ that should be allowed to vote?
But then you - with your ever-perceptive mind - pointed it out -delegated voting. That’s where they’re going with this. Bad, bad idea.
Ultimately, the Supreme Court may need to clarify not only what is a ‘person’, but what is ‘life’, which means they’ll have to wrestle with ‘a soul’. Good luck defining the legalities of that!
If you want to see what it looks like when corporations are allowed to vote, look at what goes on in homeowner associations where a large percentage of the housing units are owned by non-resident investment owners.
I don't think this happens with single-family home H.O.A.s -- yet -- but it does happen quite a bit in condominium associations where investment groups hold a super-majority of the votes and act against the interests of the actual resident owners.
For example, it's not uncommon for an investment firm that owns enough units to vote to dissolve the condo association, divesting the resident owners of their homes (but not their obligations to pay their mortgages).
To his credit, Florida Governor Jeb Bush vetoed a bill in 2006 that would have made it easier for this to happen. But Republicans will republican. When Charlie Crist became governor the bill was passed again and signed into law in 2007. The consequences were predictable.
> "Condo owners say a 7-year-old change in state law now is forcing them from their homes as investors convert their buildings into rentals. Some condo owners say they’re being pressured to sell as investment groups slowly take over whole complexes, often by snapping up foreclosed units. Their goal is to sell the properties at a profit." (Naples Daily News, September 08 2014).
> "About 20 owners in Boynton Beach’s Via Lugano condominium filed a lawsuit in June to block a Newton, Mass.-based company from using a state law to force them to sell their homes. According to Florida condo law, a condominium can be dissolved if 80 percent of owners agree to its termination. At Via Lugano, the company Northland Lugano owns an estimated 93 percent of the units." (Palm Beach Post, August 28 2014).
It is also extremely hard to organize owners to take collective action when unit owners are corporations, and you can't even figure out who the actual people responsible are. I know, because I've done it out of necessity. But that's another story.
This is not unprecedented. This kind of thing was common in medieval towns. It is still a part of the City of London local election system.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_London#Elections
This is more disclosure......time to dig deeper, Peter.
How crazy to propose allowing corporations to vote, like humans, right? Except.....that's what already is happening.
Human voters are, by default political status of 14th amendment "citizen" under STATUTE (thanks to birth certificate recording) actually corporate entities themselves, and they don't even know it. As they continue to "volunteer" and ask for permission from the corporate overlords to participate in the voting process.....they assert their agreement with this, and remain subject to all the terms and conditions imposed by the corporate government service agencies we know of as "the" state...."the" fed, basically..."the government". Except that "the government" is actually a vast web of corporate subsidiaries that are by contract (the Constitutions) supposed to be providing just 19 specific, enumerated services to the People, who are the ACTUAL government de facto. Look them up; you will find that they are all incorporated and have separate Dun & Bradstreet numbers. Every bureau, every agency, every muicipality, every department at every level of local, state and federal "governments" are separate, incorporated entities, governed by commercial codes and statutes. Contracts.
- As shitty and inverted as the public school system has been for decades, a lot of us do remember learning way back when that a government can not be incorporated, nor can it be run like a business.......and yet what we see everywhere is EXACTLY THAT. What a glaringly obvious contradiction that nobody ever questions or clarifies....how did that happen? It's right out there in plain sight, happening before our eyes. Teachers don't elaborate on this contradiction because they have no idea what it means....they just gloss over it and move on to teach the corporate government structure, which includes the three branches - executive, judicial and legislative. They have no idea that the true three branches of American government are the Union, the Federation and the Confederation. They have no idea that the true American government IS and MUST BE UN-incorporated.
Every piece of the political system on display is corporate, and falls under contract law -- its framework is "legal" (not Lawful- huge difference). By contract law, corporations may only deal with other corporations; the Law of Kinds. Living men and women cannot be party to contracts with corporations.....living people must first give up their organic identities and agree to corporate identities; and THAT identity is what participates in all the "legal" processes of the de facto government service agencies.
And so....this latest proposed bit of insanity is not insane at all; it is just bringing out into the open exactly what has already been going on for a very long time. The true American government is not and never was a "democracy". It is a Republican form of government; by the People (unincorporated). The only "democracy" that exists on American soil exists inside the halls of the congresses.....and whenever human beings parrot that bullshite line about "our democracy", they don't even realize they are affirming their own corporate status as citizen-slaves to the corporate governments, subject to all of the gazillion rules, regulations, statutes, codes, decrees, orders, et al. Not free, certainly. Taxpayers, responsible to finance the activities of the corporate "government". Slaves living in fear of polic(y) enforcement; fear of the IRS, fear of the police (who exist to protect the corporate governments themselves, NOT "the people"), fear of social services, fear of public health, fear of the truant officer, fear of the courts....fear fear fear, the complete and total antithesis of freedom.
Do some deep research into what's really going on, that's been hidden in plain sight for over 160 years. A great place to start is Mel Stamper's book Fruit From a Poisonous Tree....or Douglas Gabriel, Anna VonReitz, David Straight, KL (to name just a few) who all have countless videos.
Unless you've corrected your default political status and proclaimed your original birthright political status as living men and women; Article 4, Section 2A Citizens under Public Law.....your identities are already "legal persons", all those of you who are "registered voters" participating in these elections. In essence, you are all corporations. Why not acknowledge this, and bring the bigger corporate players out of the shadows?
Reading this, at first I thought, ‘well this idea is nuts’. And what a bad legal precedent it would create - ten years from now, would they decide that an AI Chatbox is an ‘entity’ that should be allowed to vote?
But then you - with your ever-perceptive mind - pointed it out -delegated voting. That’s where they’re going with this. Bad, bad idea.
Ultimately, the Supreme Court may need to clarify not only what is a ‘person’, but what is ‘life’, which means they’ll have to wrestle with ‘a soul’. Good luck defining the legalities of that!
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